tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post7402962274968578891..comments2023-04-01T12:48:33.094+01:00Comments on ***** Phoenix Racing™ *****: Derby Day Fall out...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04158311979572259977noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post-6841997786472962082013-06-09T11:41:04.457+01:002013-06-09T11:41:04.457+01:00Haha Great Banter MG , listen listen ( you know wh...Haha Great Banter MG , listen listen ( you know who says that a lot ? ) i dont disagree with your points entirely and i hold no candle for Timeform etc as i use my own tissue every morning and my own speed ratings ( inc actual horse rating )and you made ref to the Derby by using HC as an example of my write up , you are right in saying at this early stage of the season its nigh on impossible to fully judge any of the runners on what they have shown however my musings were based solely around the Derby and the quality as it stood right now....this was a poor derby with a very average field running a muddling race with a heaped finish in a slow time......ive seen better hcaps than this...however what may transpire over the next few months or so is a few of these improve hugely and turn out to be decent animals and most if not all will notch a win or two at whatever level....my point is , my whole piece was based solely on the DERBY and how they are right now with no ref to the future.<br /><br />Get in touch thru Ascot and after the Irish Derby and we can expand on this more and if you get chance during the day when a card is up it would be nice to have some banter regarding that specific day ;)...Take it easy m8.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04158311979572259977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post-39350134117796296122013-06-09T05:08:20.514+01:002013-06-09T05:08:20.514+01:00Thank you for your reply. You're right racing ...Thank you for your reply. You're right racing IS full of opinions, but there is only 1 right one. Bookmakers have built thousands of shops and made billions of people who come to the wrong opinion.<br /> You seem fixated with Timeform, Racing Post and Sporting Life and The Derby itself. I never mentioned the Derby and I wouldn't ask a pundit anything. Have you heard them picking winners lately? No either have I. <br /> You stated that it was a poor renewal and "THIS IS SHOWN BY THE CORE SPEED FIGURE AND SECTIONALS" - Whether or not its a poor renewal or not the core speed figure and sectionals don't show this. You'd be an absolute fool to even jump to that conclusion. The time tells you that they went slow, thats all it tells you. That and the fact that you can't go claiming its a world beater yet or a bad horse. The time for the Derby is worthless for basing a judgement on any of the horses just yet, it was a false run race. Good and bad horses run in them EVERY day.<br /><br />Remember you heard it here first, you won't be claiming Dawn Approach as a great horse by the end of the season. <br /><br />Here endeth the lesson.Mug Punterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099073178004021293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post-17229823050227946542013-06-08T11:23:27.968+01:002013-06-08T11:23:27.968+01:00Hi MP ,
Camelots 2000 guineas was not better than...Hi MP ,<br /><br />Camelots 2000 guineas was not better than DA ( this is in my opinion , and thats the thing with racing its full of opinions ) and i do do feel that over 7f/1m Dawn Approach is a beast and even if it raced proper i am not convinced that it would get 1m4f and would be worried over 1m2f when we see this race again over 1m it will blow the field away and prove itself to be a class beast .<br />Slow Time does mean poor derby although the winner is not gteed to be shit,HC was a very good stayer , not a world beater but just very good.<br />The times in the race , the way they finished and the way the race was run suggests to me this is a weak Derby field ( a fact which has been recognized by the likes of Timeform , Racing Post and Sportinglife plus most if not all pundits will also back this up )the winner could be absolutely anything to be honest and in my Derby card i gave it a mention and i was positive towards it so who knows , the fact here tho is this WAS a weak Derby and Dawn Approach ran no sort of race and is still currently the best 1m in Europe.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04158311979572259977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post-47858495376567138232013-06-08T01:30:23.160+01:002013-06-08T01:30:23.160+01:00Dawn Approach will himself to be no great shakes b...Dawn Approach will himself to be no great shakes by the end of the season. Camelot's 2000 Guineas was better than Dawn Approach, although not visually. Are you saying a slow time = bad form? High Chaparral a bad horse?Mug Punterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099073178004021293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2771687464577429224.post-54134251730252820682013-06-02T13:09:18.747+01:002013-06-02T13:09:18.747+01:00have a good day m8.have a good day m8.mini matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13345898292797411744noreply@blogger.com