Saturday, 22 October 2011

Guten Morgen, happy Samstag!

Morning all , almost a stellar day yesterday, some great returns matched by some shitty losses , however we still made a very steady £800+ so cant complain when its all about the long game...
Got an absolute plethora of racing today with the highlight being the brilliant Newbury card , ok not brilliant but good!.
That is supported by Donny and a few NH cards , its a saturday and weekends are usually members only but with so many cards today , the members are happy for me to show a card or my usual array of bets , so what i shall be doing is my fav 12 bets and the last trial day for my new NH cards and the card shall be AINTREE , whatever your doing today , have fun and keep smiling.
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AINTREE

14:25
BACK - RUMBLE OF THUNDER - 1st @ 4.8
VALUE ( EW ) - LATERLY - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - REINDEER DIPPIN - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - PAINTBALL - Unplaced
RACE LAY - DANCE FOR JULIE - 2nd
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14:55

BACK - MUMBLES HEAD - Unplaced
VALUE ( EW ) - TREACLE - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - FAR MORE SERIOUS - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - BALLYHOLLAND - Unplaced
RACE LAY - BROOKLYN BROWNIE - Unplaced
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15:30

BACK - MASTER MINDED ( NAP ) - Unplaced
VALUE ( EW ) - NONE -
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - NONE -
VALUE LAY - NONE -
RACE LAY - N/A
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16:05

BACK - GORMANSTOWN CUCKOO - 1st @ 3.84
VALUE ( EW ) - FILL THE POWER - 2nd @ 30.0
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - WHAT A WARRIOR - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - N/A -
RACE LAY - BARRIE BURN - Unplaced
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16:40

BACK - THE COCKNEY MACKEM - 2nd
VALUE ( EW ) - FLINTY BAY - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - BRUNSWICK GOLD - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - HAVINGASCOOBYDOO - unp
RACE LAY - EDGARDO SOL - 1st
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17:15

BACK - FINE PARCHMENT - 2nd
VALUE ( EW ) - CATEORGORICAL - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - RIO GAEL - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - GANSEY - Unplaced
RACE LAY - N/A -
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17:45

BACK - HAZY TOM - 1st @ 1.88
VALUE ( EW ) - AWAYWITHEGREYS - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - N/A
VALUE LAY - ITS A GIMME - 2nd
RACE LAY - N/A -
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Todays BEST BETS ..;-))
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BACK BETS 

1. Newbury 14:15 - Back - Place Dutch - Tell Dad , Producer , and Graphic @ £300 , £200 and £190 @ 2.84 , 3.84 and 4.4 - ( NAP BET ) - Tell dad 1st @ 8.68 = Won £153.90

2. Newbury 14:45 - Back - Place market - Al Kazeem - £300 @ 1.5 - 2nd = Won £150

3. Newbury 15:15 - Back - Win - Pimpernel - £200 @ bfsp - 1st @ 2.12 = Won £280

4. Newbury 17:30 - Back - Megalala - £200 @ 9.2 and laying £300 @ 6.2 ( profit of  £76 / £95 ) - UNPLACED ( HIT 5.0 in running ) = Won £95

5. Stratford 14:20 - Back - Fools Wildcat - £250 - 2nd = Lost £250
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EW BETS

1. Newbury 16:55 - Romantic wish - £75 / £150 - Unplaced = lost £225

2. Doncaster 16:10 - Suhali - £75 / £150 - 1st @ 8.16 / 2.36 = WON £754.00

3. Aintree 14:55 - Mumbles Head - £75 / £150 - Unplaced = LOST £225
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LAYS

1. Doncaster 15:35 - ( place lay ) - Indepub - £200 @ 5.4 - Unplaced = Won £200

2. Doncaster 17:20 - Adaria - £300 ( LOTD ) - Unplaced = won £300

3. Chepstow 14:35 - Duke of Lucca - £250 - 2nd = Won £250

4. Chepstow 15:40 - Fingal Bay - £250 - 1st @ 3.36 = lost £587.50
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Todays P n L = £895.40 Profit

Friday, 21 October 2011

T.F.I.F

Morning all ( unless your from Coogee ;-) ) , much better day yesterday , still had a couple of shorties slammed but hey ho , both were very disappointing , no complaints here and both will be laid regardless next time out , also had quite the stroke of proverbial luck yesterday, i backed a horse for a steady sum yesterday called Jim Tango now after approaching the last and forging 4 lengths clear it hit 1.04 at this stage ( long run in ) i decided to lay my original stake off for pennies as cover , doing this manually i got my trade in @ 1.08 and to my horror i noticed i had added an extra digit to the lay my fat fingers had turned my nice win into nothing argh!!!...only to see evan williams's horse storm thru on the run in and win cosily after JT had completely flattened out up the run...so made a ridic profit all thru luck...its nice when it goes your way sometimes ;-).

Going to day of the NH TRIAL card today , Fakenham is our port of call , but with 8 2 yr old races knocking about elsewhere today will be a busy and interesting day as most of you know i somewhat specialise in these ;-).

Whip rules have been altered , final furlong slaps is no longer an issue unless your barbaric you wont lose your fee and all bans/fines since inception now rescinded , so " christophe wont be pistophe ".
 Re-starting the PLACEPOT challenge on Sat hopefully the nos will be boosted by a few from my favourite FB racing pages Peckhams picks and more pertinently the DALE SHAW elite , so fingers crossed , should be fun , were before.

Also i will be implementing a new sub page within the " peckhams picks " tab called " TRIXIELAND " , this will highlight the best trixies for the day and will be highlighting the trixie skills of nathan doughty who has been rather remarkable lately with his football trixies!!..wd nath.

So lets crack on with todays best bets ( 6 again ) and the Fakenham Trial card.
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FAKENHAM

14:10
BACK - DEAR MAURICE - Unplaced
VALUE ( EW ) - N/A
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - POBS TROPHY - 2nd @ 5.2
VALUE LAY - N/A
RACE LAY - CATAWOLLOW - 1st @ 8.8
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14:45

BACK - COURT RED HANDED - 2nd @ 2.94
VALUE ( EW ) - PHEIDAS - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - MY MOMENT - 1st @ 5.36
VALUE LAY - N/A -
RACE LAY - PAIRC NA GCAPALL - Unplaced
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15:20

BACK - RUSSIAN FLAG - 2nd @ 
VALUE ( EW ) - MONROE PARK -
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - N/A
VALUE LAY - MUSH MIR - 1st @ 2.74
RACE LAY - N/A -
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15:55

BACK - GET IT ON - 2nd @ 2.99
VALUE ( EW ) - WHISPERING JACK - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - BOTTMAN - 1st @ 3.08
VALUE LAY - HELPSTON - non runner ( tnx JM ) -
RACE LAY - N/A -
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16:30

BACK - DORMOUSE - Unplaced
VALUE ( EW ) - SAUTE - 1st @ 2.51
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - N/A -
VALUE LAY - CHICKLEMIX - ( LOTD ) - Unplaced
RACE LAY - N/A -
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17:05

BACK - REELWILL - 3rd @ 4.02
VALUE ( EW ) - GRENOLI - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - N/A -
VALUE LAY - INVESTMENT AFFAIR - 1st @ 4.55
RACE LAY - LEOPOLD - Unplaced
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17:35

BACK - BILLY BLADE - unplaced
VALUE ( EW ) - HOT HEAD - unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - GOODTIMES A COMING - unplaced
VALUE LAY - THOMAS MORGAN - 3rd @ 4.99
RACE LAY - N/A -
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Todays bets BETS ;

1.LAY - 13:30 - DONCASTER - GREGORIAN - £250 - 1st @ 2.69 = Lost £420

2.LAY - 16:30 - FAKENHAM - CHICKLEMIX - £250 - Unplaced = WON £250

3.BACK - 13:20 - NEWBURY - FOREST ROW ( NAP )- £250 - Unplaced ( slowly away, never in race ) = lost £250

4.EW - 21:25 - DUNDALK - ACUSHLEADER - £150 / £250 - 1st @ 5.27 ( 1.89 )  = Won £867.50

5.EW - 16:40 - NEWBURY - ELLIE IN THE PINK - £100 / £200 - 2nd @ 6.67 ( 2.5 ) right on the line!! = WON £200 ( £300 )

6.EW - 17:15 - NEWBURY - WARNES WAY - £100 / £200 - 4th ( unplaced )..argh!!...= lost £300
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EXTRA:
7. LAY - 13:50 NEWBURY - AIM HIGHER - £500 - Unplaced @ 3.99 = Won £500
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Total Returns = £847-50 profit
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Thursday, 20 October 2011

Morning ( aitchoo )....sniffle...

Still full of this cold , worlds longest imo!!well well , surveying the train wreck that is the last few days blog bets i noticed quite a few parameter differences between the bets on the blog and the bets i advise on , ie: outside of the blog the world is quite rosy , the racecards have all been good or great , the members have still made their respective profits every day and my own wage machine rolls on , however my attempts to spin my " spare " £5k into £250k has led me to making decisions that i wouldnt normally.
Also in my quest to assist you guys , show , teach and interpret different betting styles has led me up a path im not usually on , this i feel has also shown in some of the latest results and in order to show these i feel im posting to many bets instead of just the iron bets , but so much changes through the day regarding WoM , punts ,  and ground lead me to amending a lot of bets and trade a lot out during the day , i cannot show these quick enough on the blog otherwise people will just start shouting " aftertimer " , cheat etc ,..you ( me ) cant just go round changing the bets to show them winning all the time, that would be just plain stupid so i have to show and keep it regardless , unless i can post an hour before, which is ok sometimes but not normally available.
So where do we go from here? , well today i am going to lower the stakes and adjust accordingly , the 365 challenge stays on but will not traded with the same level of abandonment , and the nos of bets will be less.

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Todays bets :

1. Brighton 15:05 - LAY - Breaking the Bank £150 @ bfsp - Unplaced = Won £150

2. Brighton - 15:35 - EW - Methayel - ( £75 / £150 w/p ) - 1st @ 4.3 ( 1.85 ) - = Won £247.50 / £127.50
= Total Won £375.00
3. Brighton - 16:05 - EW - Guava - ( £75 / £150 w/p ) - 3rd @ 9.64 ( 2.84 ) = Won £201 ( £276 )

4. Brighton - 16:30 - Win - Siouxperhero - £200 - 2nd = Lost £200

5.Ludlow - 15:15 - Win - Lava Lamp ( nap )- £200 - 2nd = Lost £200

6. Ludlow - 15:45 - Lay - Apache Dawn - £200 ( lotd ) - Unplaced = Won £200

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These will be my  " 6 of the best " for today , although tbh there are quite a few runners i found interesting and it could be quite a profitable day today , good things expected , i am feeling very calm and chilled out , have a clear concise head on , 2 x ew's , 2 x win and 2 x lay bets , so a very steady blog day , thanks for the comments and emails guys/gals , all much appreciated , have a great day, lets get back to winning ways!.
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Carlisle Card ( this card has been produced using FLW , with addendums acknowledged due to time of year , this an experimental card and should not be followed, selections are not advised , this is a trial card )

CARLISLE

13:50
BACK - SIVOLA DE SIVOLA - 1st @ 2.14
VALUE - MAJORKA KING - 3rd @ 9.75
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  BOUND FOR GLORY - 2nd @ 11.0
VALUE LAY - NONE -
RACE LAY - SENDIYIM - unplaced
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14:20

BACK - CAPE DUTCH - 1st @ 3.97
VALUE - WESTERN LODGE - 2nd @ 25.54
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  ALL FOR CASH - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - TOPAZE COLLANGES - Unplaced
RACE LAY - BALLYQUIN QUEEN - Unplaced
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14:55
BACK - DO IT FOR DALKEY - 1st @ 7.76
VALUE - GAVROCHE GAUGAIN - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  BROUSSE EN FEUX - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - BANOGE - 2nd
RACE LAY - STORM SURGE - Unplaced
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15:25
BACK - RING BO REE - Unplaced
VALUE - BEE CEE PEE M - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA - SMOKEY GEORGE - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - AMIR PASHA - Unplaced
RACE LAY - BENMADIGAN - Unplaced
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15:55
BACK - JAUNTY JOURNEY - Unplaced
VALUE - DOUBLE DEFAULT - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  ARKROSE - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - VAMIZI - 2nd 
RACE LAY - SOUBRIQUET - Unplaced
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16:30
BACK - BENBENS - Unplaced
VALUE - CREDIT SWAP - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  THE STARBOARD BOW - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - CIRCUS CLOWN - 2nd
RACE LAY - DANCEINTOTHELIGHT - 3rd
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17:00
BACK - AIKMAN - 3rd @ 2.34
VALUE - OUR MICK - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  GOING WRONG - Unplaced
VALUE LAY - FRASCATI PARK - 1st @ 5.38
RACE LAY - BOLD SIR BRIAN - 2nd @ 4.74
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17:30
BACK - BURY PARADE - 2nd @ 13.0
VALUE - LUCIA BAY - Unplaced
PLACEPOT / MULTI EXTRA -  CROWNING JEWEL - 1st @ 11.01
VALUE LAY - WILLOWS SAVIOUR - 3rd @ 5/4
RACE LAY - AN CAPELL MOR - Unplaced
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This card has been produced to get the full jumps season into gear , a few things have been tweaked and the new speed ratings have been implemented i need to see how the new card runs a few times before running them out to my members...lets see how we get on today....;-)
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ANY views on todays card ? , layout ? , results?..let me know , i like the feedback , imo  i thought it was a great success , 16 laybets  and just 1 winner found @ 5.38 = great profits , back bets had 3/8 inc a 7.76 winner and the multi extra had a nice 11.01 winner , making it 4/8 ( 50% ) thru selections, i dont think thats too bad for first go...


**After race day analysis :  Back to profit today , a very good solid performance , the two win bets both lost but everything else won ( both win bet hits 1.2 in running , so good trade options ) , and as of 16:45 the experimental Carlisle card has proven to be very good.

Wednesday, 19 October 2011

what a nightmare..



Today has been nothing short of shambolic, losing over £6k from the blog account bringing it down to just over £9k....This has been the worse run of results in three years , reverse midas touch!!..lays winning and backs losing , everything is upside down just now!!, i am going to have a good long hard think about the next step , on one hand i want to complete the 365 challenge and feel i should throw caution to the wind and max it all out in a shit or bust stylee , on the other hand should i just go back to doing the race cards , ...and default to safety mode till things calm down a bit? , so much to consider!.
Personally  , i really dont know quite what route to take ,...time will tell , tmrw's a new dawn and with a fresh mind will come a fresh approach....

Revenge Mission

After todays tez laying performance ( as of 16:47 ) hitting two big winners and smashing my satchel to bits im off to kempton to chase the fucker back....
** whilst trying to get some of my bets on tonight i have noticed a couple are biggish prices, so any that are over 12.5 will be kept back as 12.5 in running lays**

These are my bets for kempton tonight...

KEMPTON

17:50 : LAY - WELEASE BWIAN - £350 @ BFSP - 2nd @ 8/1 = won £350

18:20 : BACK : CANADIAN DANEHILL - £100/£200 WIN / PLACE @ BFSP - UNPLACED = LOST £300
          : LAY : PAPAGENO - £350 @ BFSP - Unplaced = WON £350

18:50 : BACK : SKY DIAMOND £200 ( PLACE MARKET ) - NO BET ( DUE TO NON RUNNER )
          : LAY : MIDNIGHT TRADER £300 @ BFSP - NON RUNNER - 

19:20 : BACK : PILGRIMS REST - £300 @ BFSP - unplaced = lost £300
Incredible, the first hannon runner i back in 2 weeks, and its in a 4 runner event..and it comes in 4th....pretty much sums up my day , what a fucking joke!..
19:50 : BACK : FINE PAINTING - £500 @ BFSP  ( PLACE MARKET ) - Un fucking placed...ARRGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, what the fuck is going on!!!!!! , jesus christ , i mean , come the fuck on , kempton this evening has turned into the fucking lottery, form means absolutely fuck all , may as start getting my selections by chucking away 10 years worth os stats and data and replacing it all with a motherfucking pin!!!... - lost £500

20:20 : LAY - WINNING SPARK - £300 @ BFSP - 1st @ 3.0 = lost £600

20:50 : LAY : RED SOMERSET - £250 @ BFSP - unplaced ( bet unmatched ) = £0

21:20 : BACK : TAROOQ - £200 WIN / £350 PLACE ( BOTH @ BFSP ) - 2nd @ 3/1  = Won £150
          : LAY : LOYALTY - £300 @ BFSP - 1st @ 8.2 = lost £2160

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Thats it all bets done for the evening, time to kill some zombies ( left 4 dead ) , take out my frustrations on the undead and hope that i can kill off this bad run of form  ,...c'mon smithy sort your shit out!!...come the end of this evening , either the blog account will be empty or i will be very happy....1.01 on me being very happy i think ( still got this shitty cold )  , WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT , i will be going back to doing just 1 LOTD from tmrw until further notice as i want to concentrate more on my back selections and bet specialities , i have to " get back in the zone " , i am confident of turning this corner , but as ive been concentrating hard on the lays i have been ignoring the backs , time to get re-acquainted imo...
it has been a very roller coaster week , and i dont enjoy these any more, i only enjoy the winning ( obv ) chasing is too much like hard work!!.
i think i will also have to readjust my staking ( or am i saying that because my mega nap failed me ) ? ..i only lost 2.4% of the new back bank , so no harm done but i will have to get something scripted so i can track it better on here , thinking of a good way to keep the pnl with it...thats a work in progress...anyway , time to eat , so chow 4 now , catch ya after 21:20.....;-)

Morning...

Still full of flu today, blocked nose, sniffles etc , bloody thing wont budge!!..
Getting a bit fed up with it but must soldier on....as you know ive already highlighted 1 lay today that must be absolutely smashed in , but what else , well rather than using pas to highlight low odds / high value lays im returning to the flw laying platform , and that is to just get back to laying losers , fuck the value ! , i just need to get back to profit and start being more consistent .

So i am going to hammer some lays today , try and find some VALUE bets ( ew ) and see if there are any Bankers ( NAPS ) knocking about , with all the maidens about its fair to say that today could prove to be quite tricky.....

However what will be different is ONLY the laybets will form part of the on going 365 challenge , i am going to start a new bank for my back bets / ew's and betting advice to give Acheron members some day to day action and can see a brief pnl every day , for now this bank will be £10k and will come from my Australian wallet ( so is actually $AUSD , but for me working it all out in £ is easier , any questions ??..no fine then lets move on as im running out of tissues....

Back Bets :

1. Newmarket - 13:30 - DIALA ( place market @ 1.41 ) - £300 - 1st @ 2.66 = Won £123
*I will not have it that any horse that runs Lyric of Light ( group winner ) to 3/4 of a length cannot place in a race like this , not overly strong depthwise with the other experienced horses ( fulney not inc ) being moderate at best , this is nap material, i actually feel like lumping on big style......hmmm , have to have a line drawn somewhere tho!.

2.Newmarket - 14:00 - ELLAAL ( 1st ) and OPERA FLUTE in a dutch ( pays 2/1 - even money on stake ) - £250 each ( outlay £500 ) - 3.55 and 4.9 - 1st - ELLAAL @ 3.75 = Profit of £437-50
* Both of these have very decent form, both from in form yards and both will run great races , this looks another shoo in bet.

3. Newmarket - 16:10 - Secrecy - £200 @ 2.55 - 2nd = lost £250
* Not a nap bet , but one i feel still needs to be included.

4. Navan - 14:05 - The Munster Maori and Kateeva ( dutched in the place market ) - £500 each @ 2.5 - Both Unplaced , fucking astonishing , im absolutely gutted with this result as i thought it was fucking naile to the wall!..hmph! = Lost £1000

5. Navan - 14:35 Thomas Gainsborough and Frontier £200 each @ bfsp and 2 x place lays @ £200 @ 1.50 and 1.50 ( both keep bets ) - Frontier - 1st @ 5.74 and TG 3rd = Profit of £570
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LAYBETS ( BLOG BETS )

1. Newmarket - 16:10 - Inler - £250 @ 12.5 ( part taken and keep bet ) - 1st @ 11/1 = lost £2875
* No fucking chance , whatsoever, going to hammer this in running!.

2. Newmarket - 16:45 - Haffed Handsome - £500 @ 2.78 ( buy back £250 @ 3.65 ) - 3rd @ 2/1f = won £250
* Far too short for a horse that has shown only very limited promise ( could win but has to be laid/trade at price ) .

3. Newmarket - 17:20 - POETIC LORD - £500 @ bfsp - Unplaced @ 6.6 = Won £500
* This will not win FACT , LAY IT for all you can!!.

4.Worcester - 15:50 Chilbury Hill - £250 @ bfsp - 1st @ 9.0 = lost £2000

5. Worcester - 16:55 - Quel Bruere - £250 @ bfsp - 2nd @ 3/1 = Won £250

6. Fontwell - 16:30 - Lady Karabaya - £250 @ 13.0 - 3rd = won £250

7. Navan - : 15:05 - Custom Cut - £250 @ 12.5 - unplaced = won £250

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VALUE ( EW ) BETS - 

1.Navan - 14:05 - The Munster maori and Kateeva @ 8.8 and 9.4 offer superb value. - both unplaced.

2.Kempton - 18:50 - Sky Diamond @ 11.0
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***Jesus Christ!!!!! , 2 HUGE WINNERS HAMMER MY LAYBETS, fucking lost £4875 on 2 bets.fucks sake!! , lay all the short price value favs yesterday..they win , switch to flw and lay against data using flw and ...they win..what the fuck is going on?? , cant remember the last time i had a run like this ? , this is just getting plain fucking stupid!! , cant go back to the drawing board as im using the same system that has served me so well the last couple of years...so i will just have to carry on and hopefully this dismal run of hitting winners ( on the laybets ) will cease , fuck me , finding more winners with my lays than i am with my back bets!!...i know i shall just start backing all my fucking laybets..!!..then they will all lose..oh ffs..what a cunting nightmare , as they say...things can only get better!!.....
I have absolutely no idea where the big turn around in form come from for either horse , inler is an utter utter dog , i would have backed it to never win again , yet in it goes , and chilbury hill had tons to find with the front three and on a set of strict form lines had no chance yet that wins cosy..cant blame the time of year , its just one of those crazy things..the laybets for the account will now be restricted to 1 a day until further notice...the 365 account took a beating today , gonna take a couple of weeks to get this back i think , or i may just go crazy with it and start laying to sums i really shouldnt, go chasing if ya like...fucking sat here stunned...oh well there is always tmrw...

Tuesday, 18 October 2011

First LOTD FOR WEDNESDAY..

17:20 Newmarket - Poetic Lord - ( £500 @ 5.6 - keep bet ) - HIT 3.05 IN RUNNING -
This will not be able to dictate and make all like his previous win, imo its also a place lay, but at 4.5=5.5 its a bank lay...Fill your boots with this!- UNPLACED @ 6.6 = WON £500

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